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The Good and the Bad
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badhair
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 12:19AM Topic: The Good and the Bad

I really enjoyed CGS this year mostly because this was my first time going. I came for the game development part and from what I've seen the panels and discussions were really informative and helpful for that I plan to be my future career. It fun just hanging out with friends, interacting with booths, and being around fellow gamers like me.

The bad part about this year was mostly in the tournament section. From what I've heard, most of my friends were put into alternate teams for team tournaments due to not enough players and that there were a lot of delays for the tournaments. Although I'm sure this is completely not CGS's fault, it seemed to be very unorganized in which I think something could've been done to better the situation. For one, have a better approach for the ticketing process at the front door. Other suggestions may be to increase or add more free to play areas, longer panels discussions/separate Q&A session, live tournament streaming at CGS, a lounge with no events. Tournaments I would like to see are: Dota 2, Cardfight Vanguard, Pokemon on DS, Hawken, Battlefield 3, Gears of War, and board games.

It may seem like I have more negatives than positives to say, but most of these thoughts are just my opinion and I could be wrong about some of it. I believe the CGS staff did everything they could to make as many people happy and I will definitely be returning next year.
Hitsugiya
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 2:06AM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

I've been coming for the past 4 years, and I will be coming next year. I had a lot of fun, but I agree that there aren't too many free-to-play things until after the tournament. Even after the tournaments are over, F2P time is fairly limited (2-3) hours. The staff was very awesome and the League of Legends tournament was great. But what ever happened to Rockband? Also, the addition of the aforementioned games would be excellent. Pre-paid registration was really frustrating if you came after 10. What was up with making us walk around the entire building just to get to the exact same spot that we were waiting at earlier. Some of my friends that were paying at the front door got in earlier than me. It's not like they were here earlier than me either, they actually came about ten minutes after I had been in the pre-paid line.


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dajackson75
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beulaville, NC
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 9:59AM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

I think that this years CGS was awesome; however, i did notice a multitude of problems in some of the tournaments that I saw.

Example: the rules for SSBM clearly stated NO WAVE DASHING/DANCING (which is just a bug of the SSBM) and if caught doing so they would be instantly banded. When i got there about half of the people there were doing it. Instead of sticking to to posted tournament rules for SSBM they decided to allow it (partly because the tournament director was too understaffed to police the matter). I left because I felt that by allowing everyone to break the rules and have an unfair advantage against people who actually prepared to play following the rules, they compromised the integrity of the tournament.

Second Example: Most tournaments said that to be guaranteed a controller it would be BYOC; however, they stated that there would be some extras floating around for those who could not(of course if these controllers did not function properly the tournament would proceed regardless /reasonable face). This was a fallacy, many people were told if they did not bring their own controller they would not be allowed to play.

Counter example: The SSF4 tournament was coordinated better and (aside for starting late which was because people were having trouble entering the building) was far more interactive than most other tournaments that I saw.

Aside from the tournament seen, the vendors were spectacular. Some were willing to barter price to even more reasonable levels. There was a lack of variety when it came to food choices, but that is the most miniscule complaint.

And lastly, Pyramid head should have won the costume contest (but i'm waiting to see the Zelda costume to make a more accurate comparison). I really thought she had it in the bag.

[Edited on 02/03/13 @ 10:00AM]
badhair
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 2:51PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

Not completely sure if the second example is true or not, but you probably know more about it than I do. I also checked on twitch.tv last night to see if there was any recording done and sadly there were none. There were a couple test runs several days before CGS, but nothing was done on that day. Whats up with that?

I didn't mind the lack of food choices though. (Maybe because I ate Papa John's Pizza for $2 a slice and was content with that.) There were a couple restaurants near the highway intersection up the street like Mcdonalds, Subway, Hardee's, Wendy's. But I guess for convenience reasons for those who don't have transportation a slight larger variety would be better. But like you said there was no serious problem in this section.
DreamConspiracy
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Goldsboro, NC
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 4:15PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

@ dajackson75 I am sorry for your experience with SSB even being under staffed is no excuse for allowing the rules to be broken I will speak with that director about this right away and make sure something like this doesn't happen again. As for your 2nd Example if you can shoot me a email LordFenix.DC@gmail.com labled CGS complaint and tell me what tournament that happened. I will get in touch with who I need too and take care of that as well. We do allow people to bring their own and we try our best to provide if we can. Our room alone didn't have any controllers but we went out and purchased 8 when we found this out. Of course some of them failed but attendees were nice enough to share their controllers and arcade sticks.

As for the lack of food selection. I do apologize for that but we have tried to contact vendors for the event and some show interest but never show or don't profit enough 1 year to come back. If you want to help us out and locate more vendors for us that would be great. Try to remember this whole thing is ran by volunteers and the next volunteer could be you. We would love for more people to step forward and make this even better and better each year. Want a specific game at our event? Find some sponsors and some staff and talk to us. We would love to add your game to our roster. Want more Labs or Speakers. Give them a call ask them to come out to our event. We would love to have them there.

We are a fund raiser for our local PBL chapter that has become something bigger in the eyes of everyone and we want Everyone to be apart of it.
dragoniota

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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 7:27PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

I dont know where are all the SSB rule confusion is coming from. There was nothing stating "WAVE DASHING/DANCING" being banned in the rules posted by the tournament director. Most of these things were people spreading heresay without actually reading the rules. There was never a ban on those things. (Also banning Wavedashing and dash dancing is impossible. Its very easy to accidently do those.) There were multiple problems with CGS. The Gears problems which as far as I know no one was at fault just bad luck. Yugioh was run horribly. Every person I talked to about it said it was by far the worst yugioh tournament they've ever attended. It had no judges, no organization, no real rules, no chairs, and no tournament program to set up the matches. I made it to winners finals of SSBB before they finished ROUND 2. Last thing was the extreme pre-order lines. Hopefully these things can be corrected. Overall I enjoyed myself there and will most likely attend next year.
DayDreamer

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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 7:36PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

Sadly enough the only thing that was streamed was like one of the panels....I checked the other streams like Marvel and Tekken and nothing was recorded for it so that sucked haha
badhair
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Greenville, NC, USA
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 8:51PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

So this isn't run or helped by the game design division of the school or any game club?
badhair
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Greenville, NC, USA
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 8:51PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

So this isn't run or helped by the game design division of the school or any game club?
DreamConspiracy
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 9:03PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

Anyone can volunteer. Game design students are asked to help out if possible but not required. They should feel obligated if not for g2e/cgs game design wouldn't be at that college. This event showed the college how big the field is getting.

I am sorry about the lack of streams we ran out of capture cards and we lacked the proper equipment for everyone
bomberman0

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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 10:22PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

@dajackson75 I did not make a rule on wave dashing for melee,wave dashing is not a glitch but a physics exploit on the engine of SSBM and is a standard for top level play.

If you had confused Wavedashing for Wobbling

that is understandable. Wobbling is a technique that when a player does right, keeps the opponent in a unbreakable loop of damage followed by a KO.

Also every year I state the tournaments are BYOC for the reason that brawl has 4 controller configurations and I don't have enough controllers for that. I do however use my short supply as curtsy of tournament players. I'm sorry I wasn't able to communicate all of this information to you, I will make adjustments to avoid a miscommunication.

[Edited on 02/03/13 @ 10:37PM]
badhair
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 10:28PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

^^^ are you Joshua Parker?
bomberman0

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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 10:34PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

yes I am
badhair
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Greenville, NC, USA
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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 10:44PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

From what I've heard, you've done an amazing job holding together the SSB tournaments while others were having trouble. You're actually mentioned in the "CGS 2013" topic. I just wanted to thank you taking charge to create a good flow for your tournament. Apparently you've been doing so for a while. I hope to actually see you next year at CGS. It's people like you that make the attendee's come back.
bomberman0

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Post Date: 02/03/13 @ 10:53PM Topic: Re: The Good and the Bad

Geeezz I was panicking the whole time thinking I had failed. Thanks ^.^"
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